Paul Orzulak (D) and Mary Kate Cary (R) put their civil discourse to the test by discussing this week’s news — steel tariffs, Kushner’s status, and Nunberg’s media tour — all with a mindfulness expert listening in. Laurie Cameron, a communications and leadership development expert — and soon-to-be bestselling author — dissects our conversation and gives advice for having open, curious and mindful conversations when people really, really disagree with you.