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The Insider Podcast That’s Red and Blue Without the Black and Blue

Because reaching across the aisle isn’t working in Washington, former White House speechwriters Mary Kate Cary (R, George H. W. Bush) and Paul Orzulak (D, Bill Clinton) reached across the dial to create the podcast Bipodisan.  Mary Kate and Paul respectfully bring the left and the right together to discuss the issues dividing America – politics, culture, global events, sports, and everything else in the news.

Available on iTunes, Google Play and Stitcher, Bipodisan is a rare opportunity to hear from those who spent time in the Oval Office with Presidents and their closest advisors. The podcast features provocative guests, including other Presidential Speechwriters, who are engaged at the highest levels after leaving the White House and live at the intersection of policy, politics, communications, message, and strategy.



Although named after legendary Green Bay Packers running back Paul Hornung, Paul Orzulak’s first foray into speechwriting earned him the unlikely nickname of Dammit Orzulak. That’s because every time his first boss, United States Senator Tom Harkin, read one of his drafts, the review session would begin with the words, “Dammit, Orzulak.”

Paul would go on to become a speechwriter for President Bill Clinton and a founding partner of West Wing Writers, a Washington-based speechwriting and strategy firm that serves some of the best-known names in business, entertainment, philanthropy and politics.

Paul served in the Clinton White House as a Special Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs and Foreign Policy Speechwriter. Prior to that, he was the Senior Domestic Policy Speechwriter for Vice President Al Gore. He has also been senior advisor and chief speechwriter for Senator Joseph Lieberman during the 2000 general election campaign, U.S. Housing Secretary Andrew Cuomo, and U.S. House Democratic Whip David Bonior.

As the chief speechwriter for Senator Harkin’s run for president in 1991-92, Paul wrote some nasty things about Mary Kate’s old boss, including: “George Herbert Walker Bush has feet of clay, and I’m going to take a hammer to them.” It should be noted that Mary Kate didn’t know that when she agreed to co-host Bipodisan.

A regular media contributor, Paul has appeared on NPR, ABC, CNN, FOX, CNBC, Wall Street Journal Live, and the Canadian Broadcasting Company, among others. He began his career as a sportswriter, which produced a memorable exchange with Mickey Mantle on the question, “Whatever happened to the two-handed catch in baseball?”

A graduate of the University of Connecticut, Paul lives in Maryland with his wife, Beneva Schulte—a public affairs strategist—and their three daughters.



Mary Kate Cary is a Senior Fellow for Presidential Studies at the University of Virginia’s Miller Center for Public Policy.  She served as a White House speechwriter for President George H.W. Bush from 1989 to early 1992, where she specialized in campaign speeches, domestic policy addresses, and (her favorite) Thanksgiving turkey pardonings.

Mary Kate is also executive producer of “41ON41,” a documentary film about former President George H.W. Bush (“41”).  In it, 41 extraordinary people tell their best stories about the President’s humility, character and bipartisanship.  The film debuted on CNN and is available on Netflix, iTunes and Amazon.  She regularly holds screenings of the film for young people at high schools and colleges across America.

For the last two decades, Mary Kate has been a professional speechwriter specializing in political and corporate communications, writing everything from policy addresses to TED talks for a variety of national political and corporate leaders.   She was a contributing editor and columnist at U.S. News & World Report from 2009 to 2017, and she is currently a regular political analyst on NPR’s Weekend All Things Considered.  Her television appearances include a weekly political roundup on CTV, Canada’s most-watched television network, and numerous domestic cable and broadcast television news networks.

Previous positions include serving as spokesman for U.S. Attorney General William Barr and later, as Deputy Director of Communications at the Republican National Committee during chairman Haley Barbour’s tenure.  She also put herself through college by working as a professional dishwasher, fast-food french fry technician and the nighttime complaint desk manager at Rose’s discount store — which perhaps prepared her the most for hosting Bipodisan.

Mary Kate lives in Washington D.C. with her husband, Rob Cary, and has two grown daughters.

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